Well, this lawlessness and the "rulers of law" will continue to have a simbiotic relationship because of the uncountable benifits ! Every other non-maoist politician is blaming the maoists and bagging the gain. Infact they have always bagged the gain but together with the whisper of blame but now the blame can be thrown straight to the maoists ! What an opportunity ! "Laddu" on both hands !

"Maoists want a dictatorial constitution." This is what was heard from a congress leader. My question is when everything has to be accepted by a majority where does his statement stand ?? This would rather put them on the lime light of "against" the constitution drafting.

Lets buy their logic. Maoists are vile, vicious and unlawfull. The current situation of chaos and impunity is solely due to the maoists. If so why are the rest of the "good" parties and its "responsible" politicians not responsible enough to form a unity government as according to the proportion from the latest election ? Afterall that was the public's mandate. Nobody is interested in drafting the constitution atleast that is what can be perceived from their recent actions. Everyone is interested in holding on to a lavish chair and enjoy its amenities.

This chaos shall prevail and we the general public shall suffer. In the mean time everyone else shall prosper since this is how they wanted-to be the "rulers of law."

Have you ever been surprised at a surprise party which you organized for your friends? 

No? Then tell me, why should every commentator, policy maker, politician, and agragami's in general, feign surprise at what the Maoists are doing now?

Perhaps a whole lot more importantly, why should anyone, at all, feel sympathy for any of these surprised and disappointed actors? Beats me!

The only option left for this clique of opportunists, who have never shown any love for their country, is to resign, throw away their Dhaka topi's and kiss the ground of every dead persons house, and with heads hanging in shame say, for once, just for once - "we are sorry, for trying to make a fool out of everybody. We knew this was coming, but our greed got the better of us."

That is not likely to happen; there would be another flurry of conciliatory statements. Friends and collaborators, who are for now enemies, will be friends again. They would be sitting at slightly different sides of the table, but they would still be saying broadly the same things. That is until the stage is all set for the final assault and the time is right for the final putsch.

Now imagine this - what if you really were surprised at your own surprise party? Fun that.

I have no doubt that all those assumed 400,000 people going to be gathered in capital Kathmandu in May 1st will piket katuwal's house(Like Sarad Chandra Shah's house in 2046BS) and KP Oli house. Nepal can no more be ruled by the small clique of Kathmandu's elites- corrupts as hell and inepts as monkey. 

Prashant Jha is a talented star of Nepali journalists who has ability to potray the inner working of the thing with acute dissection- he just revealed it again, but you guys are still detesting to accept the reality.  

Stop bickering and whining you lot..all of you...use your intellect for a better cause...politicians and recently media have the habit of following the the river with the most spate..such is Nepal....

By the time you realise the true intent of the maobadis it will be too late...so wake the hell up....its not liberation..

If I were a Maoists' political adversary(not enemy as the Maoists love to term their opponents, the ones who wish to compete in multiparty political system but isn't totally happy) I would have let their movement, however they want and whatever they name, happens once for all, of course being myself within the frame of democratic legality. Can you imagine what a movement of 400000 persons implies to shake the environment? The maoists know this better than anyone else(Prashant seems not quite sure) that's why the maoists are here and there managing every kind of resource which included Prashant's and others journalistic lectures too to follow(this particular event sounds passionating!). No doubt they are the champion ones in bhidtantra right now. Well, the most easiest drive would be to again start extortion, kidnapping, murders, loots and it is not a hidden secret that they do think of all these possibilities to explore while gaining political space tactically.

 

 Thaksin of Bangkok can bear the expenses economically and politically within and outside, the Kirgish movement have neither any similarity nor such kind of background with the one Maoists are proposing. Prachanda can behave as crass as Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega but we are not in Venezuela and Nicaragua! I would recommend the Maoists to save their energy for coming elections if they have any real agenda for the country apart from their superficial way to touch everything in general, how is it said? Jack of all, master of none in politics, perhaps. My guess is that this movement given it creates chaos -a possible dream of the Maoists in pipeline- will adversely affect the Maoists' future. And morerover empirically, there is no guarantee that a govt toppled from the street can bring about political stability anywhere in the world. Is there any example to contrast it? There are orange, green, red, blue and so many revolution but with no successful career during last four or five decades. Today the real threat of counter- revolution comes from the Maoists itself ie from their military regulatory guidelines in large scale.

 

The clues of impertinence and ignorance

 

1. Recently a portrait of Lenin and Hitler playing chess was exhibited in a museum of London with the signatures of both personas and a lady teacher as a testimony to the fact. It could be that they were following nepali political spirit: no one is a permanent friend or enemy in politics, I guess. But why chessboard? mind blowing, na?

2.The chinese bureaucracy in an attempt to compile the documents from their cultural revolution found a diary of a girl who enjoyed a close and active relation with the red army during the chinese revolution, between thousands that the chinese are classifying to make public these days as a way to protect historical memories. The story was like this, the girl once saw that a pig was trapped badly because of immense excretion of the same pig farm. She remembered Mao and his high voice and rescued the pig. But when she came back to home with the smell, her mother told her that being a girl it was not a good idea to do so. She answered, "Mao says that it was of more worrisome that your ideas stain you than you are marked dirty." Her diary had several lines erased(censored)before making it public.

3. President Evo Morales from Bolivia disclosed his discovery in a conference on climate change recently, "Europeans are bald because their foods are consist mostly of transgenic products and If you eat chicken you have 100 percent possibility to be attracted by the same sex," claims the fervent indigenous leftist leader who also represents the new political alliance of Latin American spectrum. Some hundreds of masculine homosexuals from Chile staged a rally right after and the slogan was: Yo no como pollo Yo como polla( I don't eat chicken I eat penn..).

4.I remember the kathputali nach in festivals of Terai, those dedicated to children. A doll very often found at the bottom of the stage and said, "I'm away." Immediately afterwards, the same doll approached the stage and said: "Now I'm near." Occasionally he/she took a handful of candy and the phrase was: 'I have little candy. " But in the picture below is filled with sweets: "Now I have lots of candy." When you are small it is important to have much of any thing. So we were educated and we educate.

 

 

The question is: In the triumph of quantity, how would you assess the love?

In the Ten Years of "Liberation" (?) Struggle, the maoists did not feel shamed of maiming hundreds of thousands and killing 14000 Nepalese.For them it is the sacrifice Nepalese have to pay, if they want to be served by the Maoists. Let them go to streets and prove their muscle. I do think that they should do that. ut I believe that they will fail. However, it does not mean the government won or NC, UML or ruling parties won. No. Maoists fail won't mean NC, UML and Sadbhawana won. I will take it as a rebuf of people that is all.

However the danger is that they will resort to violence as soon as they feel the people's mood. They will do everything in their capacity to raise the temperature to boiling point and come to confrontation with the police and then with the military. That is their target and that is what they will try to do. So, there is going to be violence without doubt. Without violence and chaos and without blaming police and military for the present situation, the Maoists know that they can't succeed. The andolan has that hidden agenda and that is what they will try to acieve.

Some in the military would love to go out and show their strength in order to cater a political space for them. So we can be confident that the extreme right and left will try to go all out.

But I do think this will force a outlet. We can't go on like this. People gave the maoists, a majority in the CA. It is the people who have to slap them without participation. There is no alternate to it. Let us face it.

It is battle in which all have high stakes. NC and UML have more than other parties. Let us see what they do. It determines their future roles. Will they fight back? The maoists are going to hammer them mercilessly. Let us see. 

Arthur, your assiduous copying of propaganda technique that a lie, if audacious enough and repeated enough times, will be believed by about a thousand remaining independent people, like me, is despicable. 

No matter how hard you try; families which lived in Nepal and individuals who understood their environment will not dither. I do not seek an argument with you, because you, and those who are taken in by you, are already lost to an evil that eats your soul.

Instead I, and I am sure others, express ourselves here because we care about those who have accepted the evil ideology out of fear, have been cuckolded by the rhetoric, children who were stolen from their families to fight for the greed of those who seek power at the cost of the dead. I am deeply aware that the true motive and the character which drives Maoists is evil, nothing else. The ideology was always nonsense – its proponent is long dead and his followers have forsaken him at home.

I know why you keep insinuating motives such as civil war on people who are fighting here in the only forum where you cannot exercise full control. It is because you want to justify the war that the Maoists have been preparing for over the last four years. 

One of the stolen children in Nepal, back from a mission to kill could have said this:

"It was terrifying to see the writhing body of the person and to have taken part in doing that…..but I persuaded myself, explained to myself - I must not give in to pity, my comrades would know and I could be next. I convinced myself, we were realizing historical necessity. We were performing our revolutionary duty. We were fighting for socialist utopia. Our goal was triumph of prachandapath, and for the sake of that goal everything was permissible - to lie, to steal, to destroy hundreds of thousands and even millions of people... everyone who stood in the way".

Your communication strategy is simple, first, to deny reality (that people were murdered in cold blood, children were stolen, money looted from poor); second, to claim that Nepal will not be like any other communist ruled country like North Korea (which is easily claimed, since there is a shocking lack of information about the true implication of Maoist political and economic agenda); and, finally, when all else fails, to claim that I have no right to speak (e.g..you are a minority, you have no political knowledge, or you are a royalist, or the one you tried on me a week back). 

None of three ways address the issue: there is no answer to the challenges facing Nepal, a landlocked country, even as commies have failed miserably everywhere else where they had access:

-  to easy trade routes (North Korea),all of them really 

-  massive resources, ample food resources (everyone of them), 

-  being surrounded by prosperity (all of the Eastern Bloc before the revolution in early 90's)

-  Highly educated people (USSR, Eastern Bloc, East Germany, Cuba, North Korea)

You simply claim that you will do better than the bumbling incompetents in power now. 

At least I am taking the ceaseless rantings of the Pushpa Dahal and his band of thugs and murderers seriously.  They mean what they say: look at the past in Eastern Europe, North Korea and elsewhere of which these neo-acolytes in Nepal are shamelessly in awe.  They want us to trust them that their reign will be different; they want to hoodwink us once again.  These thugs understand very well that in competitive politics they need money which they have been amassing and would continue to do by weakening the government.  They are betting on the total state capture.  Dev Gurung, one of the murderers in the Maoists cabinet of ministers, used to say that they have a forty-year plan for Nepal. Fo course they do! They want to experiment yet again with the lives of 29 million Nepalis to fulfill the utopic dreams of the gods in the Communist pantheon.  We cannot accept this and we will not accept this. 

What this imminent confrontation does, however, is to get to the real conflict once and for all.  There has been no pushing back of Maoists so far, but they are just like scores of other pusillanimous Nepalis around us.  They push when they know there won't be any resistance, but they will run with their tails between their legs once someone hits back. 

So it's time we support our armed forces and take sides in this "peace process" (read suspended conflict).  Let's hit back even at the risk of losing a few thousand lives.  It's better to save the remaining millions!

So it's time we support our armed forces and take sides in this "peace process" (read suspended conflict).  Let's hit back even at the risk of losing a few thousand lives.  It's better to save the remaining millions!

Just how many "few" thousand lives would you like to "risk"? And whose?

Not yours of course, but when you previously expressed your desire to "postpone" elections for a more "propitious" time I pointed out some of the difficulties in #20 here:

...cancelling elections would require many things, but you forgot to mention a few.

First no public relations campaign would convince anybody that you were merely putting elections off for a more propitious time.

Second, you would have to start off with a massive bloodbath in the cities. The people would not just fight in remote rural areas but where you live.

Third, "getting the international relations side of things right" would require rather more than India actively siding with the Nepal Army and the rest of the world continuing to aid a country determined to become a failed state.

India would have to actually occupy the Terai and Kathmandu Valley to ensure its arms supplies did not end up with the PLA as before. That would then make it a national war of liberation from India with many more joining the Maoists in resisting the invasion. India would eventually get tired of it as the Americans did in Vietnam, but Nepal would never surrender.

Since your "security forces" cannot even secretly smuggle arms from the Indian border to Kathmandu without getting caught and exposed you may as well as stop day-dreaming about a "well thought out plan" for anything.

You replied:

Skillful public relations will work; there is no question about it.  Some blood bath will indeed be necessary; after all, this is a war remember? Getting international relations right is necessary and that has happened in the past: we need to get our relations with India and China right.  The distant Western countries couldn't care less about Nepal and they will abdicate their interests to India, as they have done in the past.  And some of the representatives of these countries must be thrown out of Nepal, a failing state.  The snafu with the purported "smuggling" of arms is due to giving too much ground to the "rebels".  They could be reigned in if their mad leaders are neutralized; it's not that tall an order. Indian Army wouldn't have to do all those things you claim; our 90,000-strong NA will suffice.

King Gyanendra's strategy for dealing with the Maoist problem was the best. He had almost succeeded too. For all his petty mistakes, Nepali people would have benefitted the most if they'd stuck with him for a year or two longer. Monarchy was unjustly and unthinkingly removed. The best way to teach these vicious Maoists, lying politicians, and deceptive media a lesson is to bring back the monarchy! Then this group of hoodlums will realize that they can't keep playing with the Nepali people all the time!!

Bring back the monarchy! Long live the King!

Arthur or whoever you are! You've resorted to name-calling, a cheap and cowardly tactic of last resort for those who are puking up the Red Communist lies.  This is not surprising at all; rather it's well expected.  When all else fails, call people stupid or attach other monikers to discredit them.  However, this doesn't change the facts.  Your brethren in arms or your paymasters (I'm beginning to wonder now ), are hell-bent on taking our country further down the abyss.  I am prepared to take a stance and call a spade a spade. 

And go through our "discussion" again (considering that you seem to have a lot of time for this) and stop using excerpts as they suit your motives.  It isn't surprising at all that further discussion may have sounded pointless to you; after all, Maoists are the same way! Their mantra seems to be, "If you don't agree with us, we will finish you!" Or "If the Murderer-in-Chief (read Prachanda) does not become prime minister, we will finish you!" Or "Abdicate and we shall negotiate!"

Let me state again unequivocably: it's time we Nepalis take a stand and push back.  If the thugs and murderers want confrontation, why deny them? It seems to be the only language they can understand, so let's get it done once and for all.  The path to true democracy and prosperity can be messy and it may lead to a few more deaths.  Why should we be surprised? And it's the Maoists who are resorting to violence means; look around us! Their looting and plundering goes unabated and they are supplementing the party coffers through the allowance they are sucking from the exchequer for their cadres in the cantonments.  They are for total state capture.  Denying this simple fact and parroting your lies, doesn't change the ground reality. 

War it is unless the murderers step back!!

"Your excellence is more straight forward, principled and honest than others who think as you do, like Slarti, rishav (and jange) by frankly calling for killing a few thousand more and resuming the civil war. But there may be a certain wisdom in their more indirect approach which is closer to the tone adopted by his majesty himself."

 

Very impressive indeed, Arthur.  For a "proponent" of the proletariat you sound more like a courtier (may be you missed your true calling)!  I don't deserve such sycophancy, as I neither belong to the Royal lineage nor the nobility you are trying to attach me to. 

 

As for your seeing wisdom in a more "indirect" approach, that is precisely what has gone wrong in the past.  All this indirectness, beating-around-the-bush, political correctness, and politics of compromise have got us where we are at the moment.  While one side has been steadfast in its beliefs and convictions, however wrong and evil they may be; the other side has been wavering and floundering.  While one side has systematically weakened the state, the other has been a silent observer.  It's time the other side became more direct, and as pushy as the Maoists.  We need a real confrontation, once and for all.

 

"Certainly the continued existence of an unreformed Nepal Army means some sufficiently stupid generals could return Nepal to civil war again. That is why it is so essential to settle that issue, even at the cost of another year's delay before the measures essential for a new Nepal can really be implemented. That is why Prachanda resigned, the PLA stays on alert, and the YCL prepares for all contingencies."

The fear in the likes of Kunda Dixit and Prashant and indeed in Nepalis at large comes from the past actions of the Maoists.  They have been in the government while enjoying all the benefits of being in the opposition.  Now that they are in the opposition, they are ruing the resignation of Prachanda (Murderer-in-Chief).  They realize now that they were enjoying the best of both worlds, but have been reduced to a nattering but armed and dangerous opposition.  Prachanda resigned not because the "generals could return Nepal to civil war again", but because he realized the mindless arm-twisting by his guerilla minister, Badal, didn't succeed in ousting the army chief.  He realized that the army is the one of the very few functioning and professional institutions in the country.  He was shamed into resigning due to his party's ill-intentions.  We should thank the "stupid" generals for having saved the Nepali democracy, however dithering it may be.  The band of thugs and murderers, on the other hand, was all set to hijack it for good!  The fear is real, not overblown.

 

Furthermore, PLA has always been on alert and the YCL is not preparing for all contingencies--this is their modus operandi.  They threaten, loot, plunder and murder, if need be.  And this has been the core problem of the Maoists pretending to be democratic but employing the politics of terror to retain their hold on power.  They do not want lasting peace in Nepal; that will make them redundant.  They do not want a new constitution because then they would have to put down their arms (the source of their power remember?) and they would be neutered.  They do not have a plan for the country besides the tried-tested-and-failed 40-year plans which have eerie resemblances to the regimes of North Korea, Khmer Rouge etc.

 

Thank you Arthur, if it was not for your presence here I would never have the motivation to stay and do the only thing I can do, speaking out.

First and foremost, I don't shout about Maoist killings, I scream about the murders committed to satisfy the greed of a few privileged individuals who sought to justify these killings in the name of ideology. 

I will keep screaming about the murder of over 16000 who were killed during the war and after, each one of them dying because of a Maoists who used the excuse of ideology to start a war which would do no one any good and has not done anyone any good. I will also scream and throw a fit as long as I am permitted to, to ask each one of these fools, what for? 

I will keep asking these questions for the parents and children of all those Army and Police men who died defending people like me.

Who are people like me? 

People like are those who worked hard to fight their way out of poverty, blessed by families who, even in difficult circumstances, imbibed the right values in us. We learn to live within the boundaries of laws and rules; we understand our environment and learn to live in it with integrity. 

I am one of those few thousand who feed others, pay the bills, pay the taxes, and pay the extortion money that helps people like you to then murder in turn. Labeling me as the ruling class is not going to take you anywhere.

To then go ahead and suggest that people in this country were afraid of people like me, is to lift from the Maoist propaganda book and try and gain some pats from your reputedly large group of friends. Don't think for a moment that I would not take a tortuous journey through your propaganda book. 

People like me work, have family, feed the hungry not out of pity, but as a duty that every householder has. I am not a few thousand, I am one of the millions who keep ungrateful like you alive.

Contrast me with those who have had the opportunity to study in the elite universities and how they squandered their opportunities and the value that they could have created for their compatriots by doing something. 

Instead, they turned into monsters, simply because they felt guilty about having the opportunity that people like me never had, because we had to take care of our own. They simply missed the point of life, it is about the living.

Finally, I am the one who lived on $2, but what made my life better was the fact that I could wake up early in the morning to pick flowers for dasian, because I could listen to wonderful stories and look forward to a life where if I worked hard like millions of my countrymen, I could live a good life. 

A life which included a reasonable assurance of safety, a reasonable lack of uncertainty, a life in a society which did not depend on the government to provide dole, but a society which would do its best to enable me to get my life going. It would be a limited life if I did not turn out to have the skills that I have, but it would be a life filled with all the colour's of dasain and of tihar.

What gets me going is the rage that comes from the destruction of this life which I wanted to live. It makes me want to scream, even as I know that I would not make any difference. 

It is the rage over your motive which makes you lecture me on what choices I and others in my society should make, is what gets to my nerves. It is the rage of knowing that not I but those who were squandering their lives playing cards and being good for nothing are leading a murder campaign and calling it a revolution that gets me all worked up.

Even as you waste your time here, someone died from your ilk. He was the ruling class. You know why I don't gloat over his murder?

"Congratulations for taking my advice to leave out the explicit calls for a bloodbath and killing a few thousand more. With a little more effort in the same direction you could be almost as convincing an agitator for resuming the civil war as jange. You already sound less like a hysterical child throwing a temper tantrum than Slarti..."

 

Quite a self-congratulatory attitude this, Arthur.  Stop flattering yourself and please keep the unsolicited advice and a patronizing attitude to yourself.  When you fail to convince others of your agenda, you resort to these cheap tactics!  I'm not surprised though.

 

"The politicians that abandoned their own beliefs and convictions and agreed to the terms of the comprehensive peace agreement and ran for election to the Constituent Assembly on a "politically correct" program of republic, federalism and adopting a constitution for building a new Nepal did so only AFTER they had already tried your policy of confrontation and had proved for all to see that they could not by civil war defeat those who genuinely believed in those things and were steadfast in their convictions."

 

The comprehensive (read "incomprehensible") peace agreement was signed by the parties and the Maoists because it was a marriage of convenience to oust the king.  Both sides were looking to use each other as a crutch to regain power.  "New Nepal" was a catchy slogan with a lot of legs at that time, and people are now discovering that it is nothing but a hollow phrase.  I have traveled to the rural areas where people are openly decrying the prevalent mess and the false promises.  What is new about Nepal at the moment is that the law and order situation is worse (due to the setting of a wrong precedence of legitimizing a non-state armed group) and there is no sight of the new constitution, thanks to the Maoists.  They have their own constitution in their back pockets and have brazenly said that they'd announce the new constitution from the streets--so much for the elections and democratic practices. 

 

"Now they are stuck with the fact that the people still want those things which they pretended to agree to but cannot deliver themselves."

 

This is why the goons resigned last year.  When they realized they couldn't deliver the goods, they bolted out of the government making lame excuses.  They know all too well that it's easier to destroy than to build a nation.  The Maoists are adept at destroying as we have seen it all along; and this seems still to be the case as we see them brandishing khukuris across the country, toting grenades and smuggling sticks into the capital city!  They'd like this environment of uncertainty and the game of cat and mouse, musical chairs to go on while they hoodwink the Nepali people yet again and usurp total power. 

But you never answer any questions, when you do it is not about what is being asked.  You deflect questions about North Korea and all other communist state, to allow everyone to know the true consequence of your ideology and its potential for evil.

How different is Laos from Nepal. Why should a country which has enjoyed 35 years of one party rule, which follows the exact same ideology as our own Maoists, not progress economically? Why should such a country, which enjoys a better location than Nepal, have 35% of its people below poverty line, why should 80% of its population be dependent on agriculture when unlike Nepal this country is surrounded by some of the most dynamic economies of the world?  How come it does not have viable infrastructure even as it is a member of ASEAN?

Perhaps most hilariously, why do most of its people have to live the way they do and still have to accept the tyranny of the party which does not allow them a choice? After 35 year of one party rule?

"So, we seem to be agreed that the parties now governing had no intention of carrying out their promises, which were nothing but hollow phrases."

 

Yes the term "parties" you refer to here includes the Maoists.  The government before this was theirs, but they resigned due to their failure to follow democratic practices and govern.  They failed.

 

"For you that is natural, and presumably "liberal democratic". Since you support the old Nepal, it can only be a good thing that promises to move forward turned out to merely be hollow phrases.  But the people forced to live on less than $2 per day really do want a new Nepal and will certainly adopt a constitution for it in the streets rather than accept just more hollow phrases."

 

"Old Nepal" and "New Nepal" hold different meanings to different people.   A lot of the people making $2 per day you purport to be speaking for say that they are worse off today than they were before.  Thanks to the protracted and ongoing conflict the percentage of people living under $2 per day line in Nepal is higher now than in the countries in the region which have pretty much doubled or trebled their per capita income during the period. 

 

"If successful, the military rule you advocate would leave Nepal stuck at the same level as the countries listed in the table at that link. Notice how they are all at the similar abysmal levels of developent to the old Nepal under your beloved monarchy."

 

So you're quoting the Wikipedia now! By the way, Luttwak who is quoted in your source, was an advocate for war and proposed that ending a war prematurely can cause more damage in the longer run and doesn't really end a conflict.  And the list doesn't include countries like Singapore, Malaysia which have had military "roles" in their development.  It seems you have concluded Old Nepal=Monarchy, and New Nepal=Maoists.  How simplistic! Now I understand you better.  I do not advocate military rule, but a military "role" with a combination of interventions: political reform, development and military. 

 

"But what is completely absurd is that you already know it has no hope of being successful since the "incomprehensible" peace agreement resulted directly from military rule having already been tried and failed."

 

The combination I mentioned above will work.  The previous attempt failed because the political parties were sidelined.

 

"But what is completely absurd is that you already know…"

 

BTW, when are you going to stop telling others what they already know or think?

"In resigning rather than compromise on civilian supremacy over the military, the Maoists behaved much more like a liberal democratic party than any of their opponents."

 

They resigned because they failed to govern and deliver.  And what would you call the Maoist party that continues to maintain a parallel army; patronizes a YCL that loots and plunders; draws allowances on behalf an inflated number of "soldiers" (as shamelessly and smugly confessed by Prachanda in a video-taped speech) further impoverishing the exchequer; and turns a blind eye on the cadres who are arrested trying to smuggle sticks and carrying arms including grenades around the country?  "Liberal democratic" I suppose.

 

if only people would stop replying to Kamred Arthur, then all of us will be spared from seeing evil maoist terrorist ideology propaganda.  why is everybody wasting their precious time reading Kamred Arthur's propaganda and responding to it?  he's far, perhaps in Kera Ganatantra, from realising Nepalese reality. 

"If only I was such a democratic personality as yourself I would have obeyed your command not to respond, and agreed to not discuss Nepal or the articles published here concerning events in Nepal but join you in discussions of your opinions concerning North Korea, Laos, Russia etc."

If you were a half as democratic as me you would not be half as silly as yourself in your reply. You have no concern for Nepal, you are a communist fanatic, stationed to distort other people's expression, and to make sure that people cannot freely discuss what matters to their life and their country and, to make sure that they cannot express their opinion. The fact that you said what you did is ample evidence that you are scared of reading what I write and try and do your best to change the subject.

You represent an ideology which has been tried in all of these countries and it has failed, it was in the name of this ideology that you murdered and continue to murder thousands upon thousands of people. If you no longer believe in this totalitarian ideology why did you murder so many people? You cannot escape by deflection. Discussion of Laos is particularly valuable because it shares so many features of Nepal. Look at each and every one of your opinions and then realise how people can see that your presence here is not out of interest but a compulsion to speak for the terrorists. Then look at mine and rest assured that many would want to say that but don't bother because of your tactics.

"But I am opposed to the social-fascist one party regimes that called themselves "communist" in those countries. I welcomed the collapse of the Soviet Union as a huge step forward there."

Good for you!!

"One could be a "UML" and hold the opposite view. But the point of supporting "Maoism" is precisely in direct response to the failure of communism in those countries, not in defending their failures."

You killed people for an experiment?

"Nepal's Maoist party has made a big step forward in explicitly supporting multi-party competitive politics even in a country as abysmally unprepared for it as Nepal."

Sure, their actions speak volumes for their "democratic" nature. That has been the case for the past 14 years.

"They have nothing to learn about multi-party competitive politics from the corrupt parties of the old system. The old parties could have learned something about it from the Maoists but seem intent on just collapsing in a heap instead. There will still be a need for other parties after the old parties have collapsed."

Why should I care about any of the political parties?  I know that the Maoists do not care about multi-party democracy any more than any of the worlds' other "people's republics" and "we-will-hold-elections-soon" military dictatorships do? 

Why should I care about the "old parties" when I know that this situation came about because of them. I already know that my world is destroyed; I simply want to express my opinion here so that I can tell somewhere what I actually felt and if I really was alone.

"Eventually, even people like you will learn how to actually argue as equals instead of trying to force others to shut up and having to be forced to actually respond against your will."

Not in this life time and not in a thousand to come would I argue like you, hollow and repetitive. I have already taken my stand and I will not relent because I am the only person who has arrived at a conclusion that is contrary to the one that is against the majority view, exemplified by #62.

"Then you will no longer need to throw tantrums about having no influence on events and will realize that you can gain influence only by putting forward actual proposals for how to move forward and seeking support for those proposals among the majority instead of trying to exclude the majority from participation."

Read my comments, and then make smarter remarks. I don't care about the majority; I care about my view, arrived at by my reasoning, stated by me. Whether someone likes it or not is their business. Either way, they can say what they like, they can question as they like, they can explain their own stand as they like. But they cannot repeat the same mantra and misquote me as you like to, and then try and drive a different meaning the way you like to.

I will continue to throw tantrums because that is all I can do, I cannot change the course of history, but if I can convince one person to move away from this politics obsessed madness and try and make their own decision, by their own reasons, independently of the crowd and then to share that so I really know what they "really" think as individuals and not ideological robots, I would think I have done something valuable.

I never excluded the majority from participation; I excluded you from trying to abuse me and my writing. You try to exclude people by bullying them; that is your point of being here. Read the link again and try and find out what that was all about and then look at your comments.

"Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of people are gathering in Kathmandu to topple a failed government. That is multi-party democracy in action. It frightens you, but you'll get over that eventually".

No, people coming with Khukuri's, bombs and sticks threatening to murder is not democracy in action. The inevitable does not frighten me. It is the madness which saddens me.

"Any new parties that wish to actually compete with the Maoists will need to learn how to rely on the people and organize the people as the Maoists did instead of relying on the state and begging favors from its security forces as the failed parties did."           

Nobody would be so shameless that they would encourage young children to become storm troopers instead of encouraging them to go to school. A whole lot of these kids, when they are older and saner, would know what people like me were talking about. But for now, that is all.